14-11-2018, 10:51 PM
My renders are far from perfect and don't look anywhere near as good as yours!
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14-11-2018, 10:51 PM
My renders are far from perfect and don't look anywhere near as good as yours!
14-11-2018, 11:49 PM
My Kitchens always look better than my renders......so my customers are pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed that I didn’t manage to reproduce everything to the most finite detail.....
No offence Charles, these are stunning renders and even more than lifelike than photos.....but....how far do designers need to go to actually sell a kitchen? The big difference between designers and designer/fitters is that the latter are realists and images like this might sell a kitchen but - might - just lull the client into a false sense of expectation ...... I refer you to Andy’s comment..... Good work regardless.
15-11-2018, 04:43 PM
It's horses for courses I guess and it all depends on how much the project is worth. NexusCad has served me well for what I have done to date but it won't take me where I want to go. I'm now in the Autokitchen camp and I'm bound to spend several light years on each plan now because there is so much to fiddle with. If a prospective customer thinks I'm an utter wanker no amount of fancy renders will change that and win me a job. If they like me I can win jobs with NexusCad. If they like me and I produce decent plans with Autokitchen I would hope it would help to increase my margins.
In the search for the Holy Grail of renders it is easy to lose track of the most important rule of all. People buy people first. Everything else is secondary to that. (I have deliberately left myself wide open here, cue the wanker gags!)
15-11-2018, 05:15 PM
15-11-2018, 07:19 PM
Touché!
15-11-2018, 11:24 PM
Customer dont think that Andy, we do but not them
We would fondly like to tell you in person at the social. Hope your wallet thickens in time for a good jolly up.
16-11-2018, 11:17 AM
100% people buy people,
So render vs sale is always an interesting debate but I think you'll have a lot of factors which can sway the scale, the age of customers, the value of a job, are you trying to be competitive on price and how you're selling/business model. For example, two people are trying to sell a 10K kitchen online, same customer - one looks like it's been rendered with a potato or one which looks realistic, the customer will 100% go with the better render. The second example, same scenario but instead of online you're selling from a showroom, Potato-man is welcoming, shows them through everything in the kitchens, sells the dream really well and build a beautiful rapport and confidence in the company/brand. VS someone who has hired arrogant self-entitled millennials in the showroom who don't really care about much let alone the customer (I'm one so I can see the problems with my generation) - regardless of the render who do you think would get the job. Luckily for me, I don't work with retail customers often unless it's a high end development, I usually work with the suppliers and manufacturers so my renders need to be top quality as they'll use it for marketing or commercial printing
16-11-2018, 08:26 PM
(15-11-2018, 05:15 PM)jonny round boy Wrote:(15-11-2018, 04:43 PM)andy5405 Wrote: (I have deliberately left myself wide open here, cue the wanker gags!) I would like to point out to the learned member from Halifax that I was fully aware what a light year is. I measure my render times now that I have faffy software in distance. It is the total distance I cover pacing up and down waiting for a render to finish.
16-11-2018, 08:46 PM
(16-11-2018, 11:17 AM)Snappy CGI Wrote: 100% people buy people, You and Daz are definitely the people that stand out on here and kbbcad when it comes to stunning renders. Most of us on here are far more handy with a router or tracksaw than a computer, which is why NexusCad has appealed to many of us. We also have limited time as fitter/designers/suppliers along with all the pressures of being a one man band business to either learn fancy skills or spend the time using them on a PC. Is there a market (or could it be created) where someone like you or Daz coud take our cad drawings and improve the renders to an acceptable level for mass market kitchens. I've seen what Daz can do for a basic Articad user who dosesn't have either the time, inclination or skill to do what he can do. It wouldn't have to be to CGI photo-realistic level, it would just have to be significantly better than the renders typical users can create. We all have jobs where we would happily spend money on improved graphics. An hour's work from someone like you or Daz could make a huge difference to a showroom or one man band bidding for an important job. Is there a gap in the market for that level of service? |
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