15-11-2020, 09:43 AM
hi guys , thanks for the welcomes . agree with that prem if blum were the norm for every manufacturer ! So i will just state a few things you have to have in place if your going to work for company's like wren . Everything must be in date or your account will go into suspension ie:
up to date -
Asbestos awareness course annually
CRB or DBS check yourself and upload
a gas engineer with the proper up to date card / id
same for Electrician with the front & back of there id card up to date card uploaded
2 Million in public liability insurance
You upload these documents to a online portal - ideally you download them on your computer then upload to there web site bikbbi .
i think that's it . Your required to carry out a pre-fit measure check at the job etc , they pay 100 for this . They def bring lots of work to you but you also get a lot of cancellations for no apparent reason . There kitchens are pretty good but there are some defects here and there which you normally put right ( you don't have too !) or its a week or twos wait for a replacement . You can invoice them for any work that's extra to the normal fit you just have to have it authorised . Generally everything goes ok as long as they get what Wren needs . If the customer has opted for a kitchen take out , the price is only 100 - this is for ALL size kitchens . So on a big one to rip out as you know its pretty hard labour - so i normally aim to have it out as quick as i can . If the customer wants floor/wall tiles removed that is extra - chargeable to the customer per meter . Supplied appliances from wren are included in the fit but not connection - that is extra . Anything the customer has supplied eg dishwasher / tap / sink / extractor they are Not included in the wren fit . So its extra if the customer wants you to fit them and connect etc.
But and there is a but - and my biggest gripe by far is that they seem to want to hang on to your payments for any reason however small . For instance iv carried out remedial work and got a completion form filled out by the customer . but when invoiced they come back with - Have you got before & after photos ? - well no i forgot or didn't realise you needed them etc . Sometimes they suggest to go back to get pictures , but on a job that was 1 hours work and 10 -20 miles from home ? Now i know !
Also be aware that say if your gas guys card expires at the end of the month , after that they will Stop all payments to you and they wont allocate you new fits until it is renewed . But they expect you to carry on with the already booked in fits ! Even if the fits are completed and already signed off ! They wont pay it seems . Iv seen fitters come and go because of there payment T&Cs . So just want you guys to be aware if you go direct . I may sound a little harsh but you need to know what you could be getting into .
Iv helped 2 guys get on board with them so far , the first doesn't anymore (chasing money) the second still does but he's only been 2 month so far and I'm making sure he knows what to do to cover himself so there's no excuse for delay in payments etc . Because lets face it who wants to go 6 months without any payments made ?
Don't let it put you off though , if you cover yourself and know what your dealing with its pretty good . There pricing is pretty good and most jobs pay well . Most customer are nice to deal with too . But you can get the odd bad apple , being talked to like your there employee isn't fun . But I'm sure you have all had that at some point .. Take care yall . feel free to ask anything ! cheers Tim ..
up to date -
Asbestos awareness course annually
CRB or DBS check yourself and upload
a gas engineer with the proper up to date card / id
same for Electrician with the front & back of there id card up to date card uploaded
2 Million in public liability insurance
You upload these documents to a online portal - ideally you download them on your computer then upload to there web site bikbbi .
i think that's it . Your required to carry out a pre-fit measure check at the job etc , they pay 100 for this . They def bring lots of work to you but you also get a lot of cancellations for no apparent reason . There kitchens are pretty good but there are some defects here and there which you normally put right ( you don't have too !) or its a week or twos wait for a replacement . You can invoice them for any work that's extra to the normal fit you just have to have it authorised . Generally everything goes ok as long as they get what Wren needs . If the customer has opted for a kitchen take out , the price is only 100 - this is for ALL size kitchens . So on a big one to rip out as you know its pretty hard labour - so i normally aim to have it out as quick as i can . If the customer wants floor/wall tiles removed that is extra - chargeable to the customer per meter . Supplied appliances from wren are included in the fit but not connection - that is extra . Anything the customer has supplied eg dishwasher / tap / sink / extractor they are Not included in the wren fit . So its extra if the customer wants you to fit them and connect etc.
But and there is a but - and my biggest gripe by far is that they seem to want to hang on to your payments for any reason however small . For instance iv carried out remedial work and got a completion form filled out by the customer . but when invoiced they come back with - Have you got before & after photos ? - well no i forgot or didn't realise you needed them etc . Sometimes they suggest to go back to get pictures , but on a job that was 1 hours work and 10 -20 miles from home ? Now i know !
Also be aware that say if your gas guys card expires at the end of the month , after that they will Stop all payments to you and they wont allocate you new fits until it is renewed . But they expect you to carry on with the already booked in fits ! Even if the fits are completed and already signed off ! They wont pay it seems . Iv seen fitters come and go because of there payment T&Cs . So just want you guys to be aware if you go direct . I may sound a little harsh but you need to know what you could be getting into .
Iv helped 2 guys get on board with them so far , the first doesn't anymore (chasing money) the second still does but he's only been 2 month so far and I'm making sure he knows what to do to cover himself so there's no excuse for delay in payments etc . Because lets face it who wants to go 6 months without any payments made ?
Don't let it put you off though , if you cover yourself and know what your dealing with its pretty good . There pricing is pretty good and most jobs pay well . Most customer are nice to deal with too . But you can get the odd bad apple , being talked to like your there employee isn't fun . But I'm sure you have all had that at some point .. Take care yall . feel free to ask anything ! cheers Tim ..