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RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Alex Morley - 26-10-2014
Thanks for your Clints chaps, great to hear more than just, that looks nice dear.
Easy Clints, it was on meads high street, one of the old corner houses. Not a modern build.
Re. Space at the back where the bamboo is off the wall, prob in my nieviety I usually leave a generous expansion gap on solid timber tops, that coupled with a pissed wall leads to that. - you would obviously do something different, I'm all ears to better suggestions. We can only improve.
Tiles.....customers choice, location of purchase no idea, expensive to say the least.
Regarding design in honesty that has nothing to do with me, I fit for a shop, though I might pass on the Clints see what my boss thinks. No doubt he sits in the remit of what the customer allows.
Re. Kitchen with kick oars lights......it was a door and top replacement. ?
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Fitter Steve - 26-10-2014
Colour Republic Wrote:What exactly is this kitchen trying to be? A modern kitchen with lots of linear lines and big drawers, stainless steel square extractor... or a contempoary shaker? The balance is all wrong IMO
Isnt that a oxymoron? a mordern kitchen or a contemporary kitchen?
Colour Republic Wrote:The least offensive out of all the kitchens in design... until you take in to account the 2 sinks. So poorly executed. Somebody at some point has told the home owner or designer that to have 2 sinks is the latest must have. Yes having a secondary sink can have huge benefits, but to have them so close to each other and on the same run of worktop, just smacks of trying to be something it's not.
You're kitchen isn't that big, you don't have that many friends. Get over it.
Well either that or it could be to do with religion or just food prep. Youve never worked for orthadox jewish people for example
Generally a very harsh post for someone who has joined the forum. You just came in from that harsh south coast wind and rain when you wrote this ?
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Colour Republic - 26-10-2014
(26-10-2014, 10:29 AM)steve the fitter Wrote: Isnt that a oxymoron? a mordern kitchen or a contemporary kitchen?
not really. To me this is modern kitchen with strong linear lines
![[Image: Excellent-Italian-Kitchen-Design-With-Wh...abinet.jpg]](http://fanelis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Excellent-Italian-Kitchen-Design-With-White-Style-And-Modern-Cabinet.jpg)
and this is a contemporary
![[Image: 1_main.jpg]](http://www.tomhowley.co.uk/kitchens/contemporary-shaker-kitchen/images/1_main.jpg)
steve the fitter Wrote:Well either that or it could be to do with religion or just food prep. Youve never worked for orthadox jewish people for example
Generally a very harsh post for someone who has joined the forum. You just came in from that harsh south coast wind and rain when you wrote this ?
Do you know what, I don't think I have! It's a very valid point. I've designed and fitted kitchens with 2 sinks but never in kitchens which are pushed for work surface. If it was a major requirement that had to included then I suppose they knew the trade off.
It was very harsh! really harsh! But i'd just come in from a night out and seeing kitchens designed where I don't think much thought has gone in to how it actually functions angers me. It's not about just sticking square boxes against walls to fill a space.
I do in fact take it back about kitchen number 2. It's not actually badly designed in terms of layout. It's just a door combo I personally hate.
Alex Morley Wrote:No doubt he sits in the remit of what the customer allows.
That goes without saying.
Most kitchens aren't perfect and have some sort of trade off where something isn't quite right because of either space, design, function or customer requests.
Also some designs aren't possible with some brands of kitchen due to the lack of sizes of the units and Clints. But in most cases there are work arounds.
For example Burbidge do 900mm tall wall units, but some of their ranges don't do 900mm+ wall decor panels that frame the pelmet, so a work around is to order tall or dresser decor panels and cut to suit, rather than carrying the pelmet round the sides.
I suppose i'm lucky that most of my customers are open to ideas.
Getting kicthens to fit is easy
getting kitchens to function is easy
getting kitchens to look visually stunning is easy
getting all 3 of the above to work together is the hard part and I hate seeing lazy kitchen design.
I'm not saying i'm some design God!!! Especially when working within customers parameters, but at least I have a bloody good try.
Sorry Alex, Welcome to the forum and ignore my rantings! Like I said, I think the fitting looks very tidy given what you you have to work with. Its the designs I'm not a fan of.
For example those bamboo worktops and the wall running out. Not a great deal you can do if the worktops are only 600mm deep, but a decent worktop supplier will often have multiple depths of timber 600, 620. 720, 900, 960.... Which gives much greater scope to deal with issues like yours.
To be honest, I might remove my ranting post from last night, not because I think any differently but more that I didn't realise it was in the public forum and it's unfair to go tearing in to someones work in public and no doubt these kitchens are someones pride and joy.
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Stretch - 26-10-2014
Leave it in there if Alex doesn't mind. It makes the thread disjointed if you take it out and to be honest it was an amusing read, even more so knowing you'd "had a few"
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Alex Morley - 26-10-2014
(26-10-2014, 05:29 PM)Stretch Wrote: Leave it in there if Alex doesn't mind. It makes the thread disjointed if you take it out and to be honest it was an amusing read, even more so knowing you'd "had a few"
All good I'm not made of glass.
I only fit, neither do I consider myself experienced as you guys. The pointers are constructive even if no lubrication was used. Lol
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Colour Republic - 26-10-2014
(26-10-2014, 06:17 PM)Alex Morley Wrote: The pointers are constructive even if no lubrication was used. Lol
I think you're going to fit right in here!
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - snezza - 26-10-2014
(26-10-2014, 06:17 PM)Alex Morley Wrote: The pointers are constructive even if no lubrication was used. Lol
Well said Alex!
Rob has given you a pasting ( unjustifiably so, as it turned out
) and you took it very well.I agree with him.......you should fit in very well here
Snezza.
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - andy5405 - 26-10-2014
(26-10-2014, 10:27 AM)Alex Morley Wrote: Re. Space at the back where the bamboo is off the wall, prob in my nieviety I usually leave a generous expansion gap on solid timber tops, that coupled with a pissed wall leads to that. - you would obviously do something different, I'm all ears to better suggestions. We can only improve.
I agree with you on that score. I run mine out at the very ends so just a couple of mm is touching the wall. I'm not sure if that negates the effectiveness of the expansion gap along the entire length?
And well done for posting something that livened things up on here, it has been quietish lately. Oh and sorry for my lengthy waffly reply, I woke up early and was bored so I had to do something, the alternative was a quote, no way at 5am on a Sunday.
(26-10-2014, 02:50 AM)Colour Republic Wrote: Somebody at some point has told the home owner or designer that to have 2 sinks is the latest must have. Yes having a secondary sink can have huge benefits, but to have them so close to each other and on the same run of worktop, just smacks of trying to be something it's not.
You're kitchen isn't that big, you don't have that many friends. Get over it.
Still pissing myself over this bit, it has to qualify for post of the month.
RE: First Of Many - Pointers Always Welcome - Daniel - 26-10-2014
Some truly dreadful designs, but fitting looks of a decent standard so seen as though that's why you are here, welcome again Alex